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tncook

08-22-2007, 10:15 AM

I have used canvas packs and I always line them with Trash Compactor bags (more durable then regular trash bags) to help waterproof them. Where I pack things depends on who I am going with. If the wife is carrying the baby then She gets most of the light stuff and I end up with the heavy stuff. :)

Canadienne

08-23-2007, 09:55 AM

This is what I try to do while packing whether it is a canvas or Cordura Nylon pack:

Durable structured items on the bottom to form somewhat of a base. I try to line the area that will be in contact with your back with softer items (ie. Sleeping pads, ropes, clothing stuff sac, etc.) forming a nice comfortable padding while you carry. The loose odd shaped stuff goes on the top along with important items that may be needed in a hurry such as first aid kit, rainwear, tarp.

Jerry R.

08-23-2007, 11:28 AM

I hate to speak for Barry, as he does well enough on his own, but what I think he is looking for is a more detailed description.

Such as where do you put the sleeping bags, and which orientation do you use, ie horizontal, verticle. Things like this. I gave him my description, because when he first tried packing his new Frost River pack it ended up looking like a beach ball.

J

pknoerr

08-29-2007, 09:10 AM

I gave him my description, because when he first tried packing his new Frost River pack it ended up looking like a beach ball.

J

Jerry, It's not surprising that a Packer fan won't listen to a Viking fan. As a Bears fan, I won't even entertain the possibilities. :eek:

Good luck with the new pack Barry... I'd offer you thoughts on your pack, but I'm a modern cordura portage pack kind of guy!!!

PK

pake rick

08-29-2007, 10:15 AM

Jerry, It's not surprising that a Packer fan won't listen to a Viking fan. As a Bears fan, I won't even entertain the possibilities. :eek:

Good luck with the new pack Barry... I'd offer you thoughts on your pack, but I'm a modern cordura portage pack kind of guy!!!

PK

Hey PK, Bman might need that new Frost River when da Beres send Green Bay 'packin'. :p

heh, heh, heh. Life Is Good Barry. Life Is So Good! ;)

pake

pknoerr

08-29-2007, 10:20 AM

To my fellow Bears fan Rick,

I'm hoping you are right about the Bears. Don't wanna get to mouthy about that this early in the season, but ya gotta start believeing that the D is there to stay, and the Offense seems to only need a few points to get wins... So, hopefully we can improve on last year... though there are lots of AFC teams out there that might have something to say about that... not to mention the upstart Saints.

PK

Sweeper

09-03-2007, 05:33 PM

Found this company I haven't ordered from it, but they're cheaper then Duluth Packs.

http://www.cookecustomsewing.com/index.shtml

Jerry R.

09-04-2007, 08:49 AM

Sweeper,

Dan Cooke makes quality gear and you wouldn't go wrong buying from him.

I have a spray skirt for my Bell Alaskan, that ccs made.

J

pknoerr

09-04-2007, 10:39 AM

Sweeper,

Dan Cooke makes quality gear and you wouldn't go wrong buying from him.

I have a spray skirt for my Bell Alaskan, that ccs made.

J

You have an Alaskan? You must have gotten that this spring in lieu of the Explorer fiasco? Do you like it? I've never opted to buy a rubber tandem, but I'd be interested in your thoughts on it.

PK

Jerry R.

09-04-2007, 01:13 PM

PK,

Ah well I guess I forgot to tell you the rest of the story! I traded my Bell Northwoods for the Alaskan.

With my kids getting bigger and going a lot more often than not now, I needed a boat that I didn't have to baby, or worry about scratching or crunching. The Northwoods was proving to be way too delicate for my crew.

Back to the Alaskan, it is a rubber tandem, so everything has to tempered with that in mind, but it is a very nimble boat for 17+ ft, and surprisingly fast on the flat water. The rocker makes it nimble and quick to turn, but I was very pleasantly surprised how well it tracks and how relatively fast it was. I'm pleased. I also got the spray skirt, an MSR Dragonfly stove, an Original Bug Shirt, for my daughter, and an Ostrom barrel organizer in the deal. I just used the barrel organizer for the first time last week, and again, I was very pleasantly surprised!

J

ckimmerle

09-04-2007, 02:43 PM

Hey Barry,

Did you EVER get the response your were looking for? Jerry relayed what he told you earlier, and he's pretty much correct. He does fill the darned things up too much, if you ask me, but he carries them so I don't rightly care. My job is just to get it on his back.

I personally don't like the traditional canvas packs as the leather straps are horribly uncomfortable, but all portage packs are packed pretty much the same, so here's what I do: I pack the bottom gear in a single row, even if it takes a bit of struggling. For my smaller Granite Gear Solo pack, that means my tarp/tent sitting vertically on the left, the compression-strapped sleeping back in the middle, and the 15-liter clothes back vertically on the right. That sets the basic shape of the pack. Everything, with the exception of my dry shoes and loose clothing/jackets, gets put on TOP of that row. The aforementioned shoes and loose clothes can go behind as they don't balloon the pack up too much.

The trick is the bottom row. Keep it flat. The flatter the pack is overall, the more the weight is centered over your hips on NOT pulling you over backwards.

Chuck

Boneli

09-04-2007, 04:13 PM

Thanks Chuck,

Welcome back by the way!

I keep forgetting about this site to check for responses so my apologies too Rick and PK for the Packer bashing! let the fun begin is what I got to say!:p :D

I have been playing with the pack and I think I pretty much have it under control. Can't pack it like the fat bastard that Uncle Phil has. It holds a lot but got rid of the beach ball affect :rolleyes: Mine has padded leather straps to help with the cushioning. Going have it on our fall trip this October to finally test her out. Ricks axe can go on the outside pocket with the bungee cord straps.

How was the water levels on any of the rivers or creeks you might have been on. We'll be doing the Wawiag River and Mack Creek so I want to gauge it. I called Susan up in Atakokin (sp?) but she must have been out paddling out with you guys ;)

Barry

ckimmerle

09-04-2007, 04:55 PM

All the streams and creeks (and lakes, for that matter) were low. In some of the smaller creeks, we did as much muck walking and paddle pushing as we did actual paddling. Unless something drastic happens, rain-wise, expect to get muddy.

Chuck

Boneli

09-10-2007, 12:49 PM

Hey PK, Bman might need that new Frost River when da Beres send Green Bay 'packin'. :p

heh, heh, heh. Life Is Good Barry. Life Is So Good! ;)

pake

And I am just seeing this for the first time! :eek: And look who squeaked by with a win? Rick, need to barrow my Frost River Pack?

Naw, let’s break it in on the Falls Chain where life is good!;)

Barry

kayamedic

09-11-2007, 06:40 PM

Who needs football when the Red Sox are leading the AL East?

And the Pats won their first game anyway...

You all might as well use your time wisely..plan next years canoe trip.

New England Rules!

(how far can you throw beer and limburger?)

ckimmerle

09-11-2007, 06:43 PM

No need to throw limburger, a gentle breeze will work just fine.

kayamedic

09-11-2007, 06:43 PM

Boneli

09-12-2007, 08:56 AM

I agree with Chuck on the breeze. Just make sure that when executing the liquids not to face into the wind. And if your taking care of the limburger then face appropieately at Jerry:eek:

Just remember the topic title here is about packs so any worth while discussions about the packers is approprieate:p

B

pake rick

09-12-2007, 10:13 AM

And the Pats won their first game anyway...

New England Rules!

(how far can you throw beer and limburger?)

Wow did this serious topic get hijacked...

Didja happen to catch the news this AM?

I don't think any of us can get too smart this early in the season. (I can say that, I'm a bears guy don't forget)

The Pats were caught cheating last week. Videotaping the Jets defensive play calling. May get penalyzed a draft pick or two. :p

heh, heh

Life Is Good, Barry. Life Is Good! :D

pake

kayamedic

09-12-2007, 11:47 AM

I am not that smart late in the season either...last year they managed to blow it... thats cause we opened the bubbly just a wee too early.

Its wonderful that people can still remain fans in this day and age of swapping and selling players...faster than a carousel

and this

http://www.miamiherald.com/858/v-print/story/234787.html

I am going back to canoeing..no one cheats there!

pake rick

09-12-2007, 12:30 PM

I am going back to canoeing..no one cheats there!

Whadda bout double blading then? ;)

kidding; just kidding :cool:

pake

Boneli

09-13-2007, 07:28 AM

Double blade, single blade, bent blade! Isn’t it all about forward progression?:cool:

Good one Rick

kayamedic

09-13-2007, 10:06 AM

Nope!
In FreeStyle its about circles. We spend as much time going backward as forward..also called non destinational canoeing...we can put on miles and go nowhere!

Which leads up to the two most voiced observations from the watching public:
1. I can help you make that canoe go straight!
2. Did you lose something?

pake rick

09-13-2007, 12:03 PM

...non destinational ...

I love that description! My beautiful bride M believes that much of my life could be described that way.

God I love that girl. :D

pake

Boneli

09-14-2007, 08:19 AM

You can practice non-destinational after we make camp. In fact, I'll join you! Get ready to explore!

B

kayamedic

09-14-2007, 12:27 PM

Gee Barry I know where you can get a pair of much loved Woods Number 2 packs so you can keep your neck in shape!

The fat pack is Big Bertha..I have a Cooke Expedition Pack that has some stiffener so that pack is "The Bi...(another word for some kind of Lady) in Red"..not as round as Bertha so that is a big help. But almost as big!

Pake Rick, you and M should take a spin in a Charles River canoe..historically they were used for courting. The sternsman was out of reach of milady, who reposed on an oriental rug with a backrest. If there was no canopy on the canoe she would have a parasol.

You might enjoy this article that has nothing at all to do with canvas packs.

http://www.ci.newton.ma.us/jackson/Canoeing/essay/index.html

pake rick

09-14-2007, 03:00 PM

Pake Rick, you and M should take a spin in a Charles River canoe..historically they were used for courting. The sternsman was out of reach of milady, who reposed on an oriental rug with a backrest. If there was no canopy on the canoe she would have a parasol.

You might enjoy this article that has nothing at all to do with canvas packs.

http://www.ci.newton.ma.us/jackson/Canoeing/essay/index.html

Thanks kayamedic! I'll read that article. Then I've gotta lookin for a parasol. M and I go out a lot in the Souris, but I bet we can outfit that sunshade thingie. I'm tryin to teach her some more steering strokes so that she can paddle in the stern and I can sit on the bottom facing her! :cool: maybe drinkin a beer :p

rick

kayamedic

09-19-2007, 10:16 PM

pake rick

09-20-2007, 08:48 AM

O Rick, Rick, M deserves a portable table with a vase of flowers..(make a little hole in the table so the vase doesnt tip) and wine glasses (you can get nice shaped plastic goblets) and the wine.

Plus the wicker picnic basket for the accoutrements( such as the cork remover and the cheese and crackers)...and the portable phonograph..

Kayamedic, You are right!

I should do this.:o

I can Do this!:rolleyes:

I will DO THIS!:D

.....we have been known to 'enjoy the solitude of the Park'
on occasion anyway. :cool:

thanks for the inspiration!

rick

kayamedic

09-20-2007, 10:53 AM

we have some canoeing wine lovin friends. They are great paddlers who still take class though they are pushing the limits of canoe balance(both are way cantilevered out)

Once, in class, they upset the boat. Now this was the funniest thing since Peg HATES to get her feet wet. Both of them were all wet. During the retreival of their boat, it was upside down over the rescuing boat momentarily..someone procured their wine basket and table cloth and draped the cloth over the overturned boat and put the basket on and then both were helped into the rescue boat where , dripping wet, they could gaze romantically at each other over wine.

Ipaddle

10-01-2007, 07:24 AM

Well I guess this will be my first post to this website. I was just reading through some of these posts. I want to express what a pleasure it is to do business with Cooke. I have one of their hybrid packs and one of their tarps and am totally satisfied with both. Their customer service is excellent.